Security vs. Privacy: An Interview with WUWM

Yesterday, WUWM aired an interview I did with Lake Effect’s Stephanie Lecci regarding America’s post-9/11 surveillance state. We discussed the use of drones, the expansion of intelligence fusion centers, infrared technology, the spread of facial recognition software, as well as the ever-evolving state of the law pertaining to surveillance.

To hear the interview, please visit the following link:

BOOK UPDATE:  to learn more about intelligence fusion centers and the role of the local police in the surveillance state, checkout privacy advocate Miles Kinard’s magazine exposé: American Stasi: Fusion Center’s and Domestic Spying.  The article is climbing the charts at—listed at #3 at 5 p.m. CST.


Steve Spingola is an author and retired Milwaukee Police Department homicide detective. His new book, Best of the Spingola Files, is now available at

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© Steven Spingola, Wales, WI, 2012

2 Responses

  1. Jim L.

    Hello Steve, your concerns are certainly valid. It is good to know that current and former law enforcement are aware of the true threat to our freedom. It sure seems as if the govt’s excuse for everything is always national security. I guess that’s how they justify tyranny. I remember the saying I think from Ben Franklin “He whom sacrifces his freedom for security deserves neither”. And I guess that is the whole point. Our govt. is to uphold the constitution. An oath is taken. In this case we’re talking about the 4th amendment. I get so sick of the argument that “if you aren’t doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about”. Well, the victims of burglaries, sexual assaults, homicides etc usually are good people doing nothing wrong and probably thought they had nothing to worry about either.

    I guess my point is who determines what is wrong, what is terrorism, and what is a threat to national security. All one has to do is look at how Obama pushed through the NDAA during the holidays last December. In one of my responces from an earlier blog of yours I laid out who I indeed thought the real terrorists are. We’ve found out not to long after the underpants bomber, that the suspect was deliberatly put on the plane by the FBI. Chernoff had stock in the full body scanners and needed an excuse to have the TSA groping everyone at airports. CBS news had an article exposing this and of course had it taken down off their web site. Several eyewitnesses saw the same thing, and a lawyer on the plane by the name of Kurt Haskell sued the govt. My point though is that sooner or later, the govt may decide that the dialogue we are having is a threat to national security and that you or me may be a terrorist.

    Thanks for your great web site.

    April 19, 2012 at 8:52 am

  2. Lindsey

    Steve, thanks for the good work. I listened to the Lafe Effect podcast. I know time was limited. I did want your readers to be aware that the facial recognition you were talking about is called biometrics. After people their new Wis. driver’s license, they will have biometric photos taken and send to a company in California. The driver’s license holder’s biometrical data will then be accessible by any govermental agency. They will be able to catch a glimpse of someone on a surveillance camera and know their identity in a matter of minutes.

    April 19, 2012 at 8:21 pm

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